Getting up to snuff

jaelee · Post by **jaelee** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:26 am

check the bulbs...could be a 12v bulb in the head light. I would convert to an A/C system...less hassle in the long run but it's a lot of work. Another option is to convert to a 12v system which might be a little easier.

jbcollier · Post by **jbcollier** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:46 pm

How many "caps" on top of the battery?

3 means it is a 6v

6 means it is a 12v

If it is a Femsa ignition, it should be 6v.

If the resting voltage is 5.6v, it's very low on charge. Hook up a trickle charger that has a 6v setting (Canadian Tire used to carry them). When the scoot is running, the voltage across the battery should be 6.8v to 7.6v.

Before worrying about the regulator, check the wires from the regulator to to the stator (two yellows). Breaks are common. Pull the flywheel and check the wires internally as well.

Angelo · Post by **Angelo** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:17 pm

I picked up a really nice charger at parts source last week that
Can be switched between 6 and 12 volt

nick · Post by **nick** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:07 pm

Battery has 3 caps, its 6v, I'm going to get it charged up. I'm still trying to track down and isolate my troubles. I'm checking for shorts in the harness and tracking down the gremlins. My flywheel is the old type with the circlip, so no puller is required as far as I can tell. I don't have a proper tool for holding the flywheel from spinning though.. Maybe I'll wait till we do our workshop as I don't have a torque wrench either for reinstalling it.

Are those bizarre 8amp fuses available locally? Or is it best to somehow wire up a new fuse block which takes modern fuses?

Also John, I found this on SIP's website. Appears vespatronic makes a kit for a femsa crank taper? http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/produ ... r_50004600

jbcollier · Post by **jbcollier** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:33 pm

Don't rewire!!

That way lies shame, disgrace and ruin.

I work on car restoration and it is amazing the amount of work people will go to, and damage they'll cause, when just a simple repair would have sufficed.

The fuses are not commonly available but they are available so get a few spares. There are ways of testing the wiring without putting that fuse at risk.

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The Vespatronic/variatronic system is a good one and can be installed carefully so that no holes are drilled or original wires cut. You would have to switch to a 12v battery and bulbs through that is not a big deal.

nick · Post by **nick** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:18 pm

No rewiring is or will happen, I aim to stay honourable in the eyes of fellow owners! I'm only testing for shorts and verifying connections at the moment. The ignition side of the system is working fine, it's just the lighting and charging side that has issues. I'm focusing on the two yellow AC wires, like you said, that go from stator->junction box->rectifier. Verifying that they aren't shorted and I have AC voltage coming off of them.

I'll work on sourcing some of those fuses.

The vespatronic kit or other is only going to happen if the existing femsa stator and cdi begin to give me problems. Just saw it, and it seems like a simpler solution than having to swap the crank out to a p style.

jbcollier · Post by **jbcollier** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:26 pm

Simpler and better as well. Two of my scoots have Varitronic and work very well indeed.

nick · Post by **nick** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:32 pm

Borrowed an expensive volt meter. Got my battery charged. I'm getting 6.5v off the battery, 7v at idle. So the charging system is working. Tested and my signals work, just need the fronts mounted like I've said. Not much left to do before I take it in.

Angelo · Post by **Angelo** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:36 pm

Good work Nick. I'm an electrical idiot so I'm easily impressed with those that can make things happen in those area's. Cheers

jbcollier · Post by **jbcollier** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:13 pm

Nothing like an accurate meter to settle things. We'll get those front signals on next Sunday.

nick · Post by **nick** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:40 pm

Thanks everyone who helped ever so much!! John, Angelo, Graham, and Yarko I owe you guys!

Signals are all hooked up and working! Horn works. Brake light works for both front and back brake.

Only not so okay thing we found is that the rotary valve has some leakage, which is what was causing the leaking fuel. It idles good, and I took it for a test down the alley a few times and it seemed good. I'm gonna ride it as is as long as it lasts.

As per the Rotary Pad repair I was speaking of to John, this is the thread I had seen. $150 and two weeks turn around apparently.
http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic97387

Angelo · Post by **Angelo** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:13 pm

Glad you were able to check off a lot of items off the too do list. I only wish I could have stayed later to see the project through. Good luck with the OPI once you get the reflectors. Cheers

jbcollier · Post by **jbcollier** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:35 am

Nice scoot and great to see one in original condition.

Congratulations!

nick · Post by **nick** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:45 pm

Phoned TimeMachine this morning. I've got it booked to get OPI'ed on Saturday.

Not trying to jinx myself or anything. What is the process if something doesn't pass? Do you need to pay the $215 again, or do you just have to prove you've fixed/repaired the issues?

jbcollier · Post by **jbcollier** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:56 pm

No ned to pay again, you have a limited period in which to bring the scoot back with the defect repaired. There may be a minor "retesting" fee. We don't but some do.